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		<title>by: John Aitchison</title>
		<link>http://dsanalytics.com/dsblog/honest-search-engine-optimization_132#comment-1140</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thank you Sandro .. that link leads to lots of interesting stuff.

Firstly, it appears that Google DOES do &quot;personalized search&quot; IF you have the toolbar installed, and IF you are are logged in. 

For example, see here http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-disable-google-personalized.html
and
http://www.rimmkaufman.com/rkgblog/2007/06/10/personalized-search/

I have not been able to detect any difference in SERPs so far, but I have not done serious testing.

Google &quot;web history&quot; is explained here
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/04/google-web-history.html

It looks like you have to specifically enable it, and be logged in for it to take effect. The above link shows how.

OT, the &quot;disabling PWS&quot;  article above lists PWS=0 as the appropriate parameter .. here is a list of other URL parameters
http://www.joostdevalk.nl/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/google-url-parameters.pdf

The link you sent &quot;Proof Google is Using Behavioral Data in Rankings&quot; is long and  worth reading and does report an experiment by Visio, which may or may not be conclusive.  The article really goes to the issue of what else, apart from content, google is using to calculate ranks/deliver SERPs : it is not specifically pertinent to the issue of whether or not google delivers different SERPs to different browsers/searchers. 


There is a consensus, of sorts, on &quot;Important Search Engine Ranking Factors&quot;  here http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors
and an interesting article
http://www.seomoz.org/blog/throwing-out-the-book-on-seo
&quot;Throwing Out the Book on SEO!&quot;
which argues that &quot;visitor actions&quot; (ie on site behaviours) are the coming thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Sandro .. that link leads to lots of interesting stuff.</p>
<p>Firstly, it appears that Google DOES do &#8220;personalized search&#8221; IF you have the toolbar installed, and IF you are are logged in. </p>
<p>For example, see here <a href='http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-disable-google-personalized.html' rel='nofollow'>http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-disable-google-personalized.html</a><br />
and<br />
<a href='http://www.rimmkaufman.com/rkgblog/2007/06/10/personalized-search/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.rimmkaufman.com/rkgblog/2007/06/10/personalized-search/</a></p>
<p>I have not been able to detect any difference in SERPs so far, but I have not done serious testing.</p>
<p>Google &#8220;web history&#8221; is explained here<br />
<a href='http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/04/google-web-history.html' rel='nofollow'>http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/04/google-web-history.html</a></p>
<p>It looks like you have to specifically enable it, and be logged in for it to take effect. The above link shows how.</p>
<p>OT, the &#8220;disabling PWS&#8221;  article above lists PWS=0 as the appropriate parameter .. here is a list of other URL parameters<br />
<a href='http://www.joostdevalk.nl/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/google-url-parameters.pdf' rel='nofollow'>http://www.joostdevalk.nl/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/google-url-parameters.pdf</a></p>
<p>The link you sent &#8220;Proof Google is Using Behavioral Data in Rankings&#8221; is long and  worth reading and does report an experiment by Visio, which may or may not be conclusive.  The article really goes to the issue of what else, apart from content, google is using to calculate ranks/deliver SERPs : it is not specifically pertinent to the issue of whether or not google delivers different SERPs to different browsers/searchers. </p>
<p>There is a consensus, of sorts, on &#8220;Important Search Engine Ranking Factors&#8221;  here <a href='http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors' rel='nofollow'>http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors</a><br />
and an interesting article<br />
<a href='http://www.seomoz.org/blog/throwing-out-the-book-on-seo' rel='nofollow'>http://www.seomoz.org/blog/throwing-out-the-book-on-seo</a><br />
&#8220;Throwing Out the Book on SEO!&#8221;<br />
which argues that &#8220;visitor actions&#8221; (ie on site behaviours) are the coming thing.
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		<title>by: Sandro Saitta</title>
		<link>http://dsanalytics.com/dsblog/honest-search-engine-optimization_132#comment-1097</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here is an interesting article regarding the kind of data Google use to improve its SERP:

http://www.seomoz.org/blog/proof-google-is-using-behavioral-data-in-rankings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an interesting article regarding the kind of data Google use to improve its SERP:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.seomoz.org/blog/proof-google-is-using-behavioral-data-in-rankings' rel='nofollow'>http://www.seomoz.org/blog/proof-google-is-using-behavioral-data-in-rankings</a>
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		<title>by: John Aitchison</title>
		<link>http://dsanalytics.com/dsblog/honest-search-engine-optimization_132#comment-990</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dsanalytics.com/dsblog/honest-search-engine-optimization_132#comment-990</guid>
					<description>A useful tool thanks Sandro : it seems that Google does not use any form of &quot;personalized search&quot; , that is, taking into account your search history. I suppose when you think about it, that would be a very hard feature to implement (a sort of recommender system), even for Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A useful tool thanks Sandro : it seems that Google does not use any form of &#8220;personalized search&#8221; , that is, taking into account your search history. I suppose when you think about it, that would be a very hard feature to implement (a sort of recommender system), even for Google.
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		<title>by: Sandro Saitta</title>
		<link>http://dsanalytics.com/dsblog/honest-search-engine-optimization_132#comment-979</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dsanalytics.com/dsblog/honest-search-engine-optimization_132#comment-979</guid>
					<description>Since it does not depend on the cache of a browser, I obtain it at the same position (i.e. 14). A very good tool is the SEOmoz Rank Checker:

http://www.seomoz.org/rank-checker

You simply put your website url, the keyword you're interested in and the search engine. It will then inform you on the position on the SERP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since it does not depend on the cache of a browser, I obtain it at the same position (i.e. 14). A very good tool is the SEOmoz Rank Checker:</p>
<p><a href='http://www.seomoz.org/rank-checker' rel='nofollow'>http://www.seomoz.org/rank-checker</a></p>
<p>You simply put your website url, the keyword you&#8217;re interested in and the search engine. It will then inform you on the position on the SERP.
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		<title>by: John Aitchison</title>
		<link>http://dsanalytics.com/dsblog/honest-search-engine-optimization_132#comment-973</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sandro, thanks for the correction re the definition of SERP. 

I was really talking about the POSITION on the results page .. I wonder if there is a term for that.?


&quot;Normally, if you search on different computers, with different cache, you should obtain exactly the same SERP (maybe I misunderstood you).&quot; ..

you may be right.. perhaps it is the influence of the cache

If I search for &quot;keyphrase extraction&quot; (with quotes) with Google  I  get my article (&quot;the Start of the Art in Keyphrase Extraction&quot;) at position 14. This seems high, given the size of the field and the fact that MSN /Live Search finds it at position 61. 

Can you, as a favor, run this search for me from your machine and see if you get the same results? I would appreciate it.

Thanks for the comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandro, thanks for the correction re the definition of SERP. </p>
<p>I was really talking about the POSITION on the results page .. I wonder if there is a term for that.?</p>
<p>&#8220;Normally, if you search on different computers, with different cache, you should obtain exactly the same SERP (maybe I misunderstood you).&#8221; ..</p>
<p>you may be right.. perhaps it is the influence of the cache</p>
<p>If I search for &#8220;keyphrase extraction&#8221; (with quotes) with Google  I  get my article (&#8221;the Start of the Art in Keyphrase Extraction&#8221;) at position 14. This seems high, given the size of the field and the fact that MSN /Live Search finds it at position 61. </p>
<p>Can you, as a favor, run this search for me from your machine and see if you get the same results? I would appreciate it.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment
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		<title>by: Sandro Saitta</title>
		<link>http://dsanalytics.com/dsblog/honest-search-engine-optimization_132#comment-968</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;since I cannot control or influence that, I won’t waste any more time on the PR “concept”&quot;

Well, in fact you can influence the PR. It is not as easy as influencing the Technorati or Alexa ranks, but it is feasible. If there are more websites (with great PR) linking to your site (and not too many others), then your PR will increase (of course, it will take some time).

Regarding SERP (P is for &quot;Page&quot;), it is not influenced by your search history. Normally, if you search on different computers, with different cache, you should obtain exactly the same SERP (maybe I misunderstood you).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;since I cannot control or influence that, I won’t waste any more time on the PR “concept”&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, in fact you can influence the PR. It is not as easy as influencing the Technorati or Alexa ranks, but it is feasible. If there are more websites (with great PR) linking to your site (and not too many others), then your PR will increase (of course, it will take some time).</p>
<p>Regarding SERP (P is for &#8220;Page&#8221;), it is not influenced by your search history. Normally, if you search on different computers, with different cache, you should obtain exactly the same SERP (maybe I misunderstood you).
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